Leave that nonsense for neglect. Even if you ignore it, you must first intrigue it, otherwise you can ignore it as much as you want. Once you've written and it's stopped, you're just bored. Unless she saw your photo and didn't like you physically. I answer sincerely.
"Attentive and always responsive, in some cases more."
Therefore. Women seek strength, support, direction from men. When I meet someone like you, I start thinking, he will always please everyone, he will not jump to protect me so as not to quarrel with someone, I will be able to lead him as I want for the nose, he will never make a decision when I hesitate and I need it, respectively, the responsibility will always be on my shoulders. In short, relationships without a man in them or where I will have to take on this role.
And these things that you have achieved are good and will help you, but without the above they have no value. The fact that women looked only at the material are tales of people who do not want to look for the mistake in themselves.
You may be "rich", but ugly, short, boring, bald, etc.
Once she has stopped writing, there is a reason why she runs away from the good
A possible reason is that you radiate despair. If you want to be liked too much, it is felt immediately and women run away from it. We want men who have a choice, it may not be so in practice, but you have to look as if you are generally the object of female attention and do not care if the particular one will like you. What is important is the illusion that you choose her among others, not that she is the only one who pays attention to you and you, for lack of others, cling to her. There are many other factors that affect attraction, of course, read on the Internet about hypergamy and some things will become clear to you.
Otherwise, neglect works when you have already attracted interest, and especially after you have slept. But you have to get into her head so that when you ignore her, she can start wondering why, what she did, and so on. which makes her inaccessible to her eyes and therefore more desirable. Before that it was all this.
Hi, you may not have the right approach to women. If you ask the same questions to everyone and give yourself the "CV" from the first paragraph, you kill the whole desire to talk. Needless to say, you are rich or good or whatever, we are not impressed when someone says they are good, because in our experience such people only pretend to be good, but are really complex or evil and even if you are not like that, they associate it with this and say to themselves "will he just talk about himself, bass the boring one", these things must be understood by your behavior and manners. Those men who are at a lower "level" have an approach with women, they know what they want and how to talk to them. Every woman wants to be carried in her arms, but if you behave so uniquely well with each other, you kill her pleasant feeling of being the only one. He said they began to lose interest in chats. What are the chats, are they always the same, at the same time or after the same question do they stop being interested, give in to your instinct and ask everything you wonder about, don't try to be "perfect", but interesting and fun. We can see all these good things that you have listed in you if you know how to show them without overdoing it or saying that you are at a higher level than others. Do not worry!
Maybe you just don't show the necessary self-confidence and don't signal your status. You have to throw the bait and the fish will bite you someday. I am 5 years older than you and I am not engaged, but for now I do not want a relationship with a woman for various reasons.
You need to look for someone with whom you have common favorite activities, to be similar in character. For example, to love nature walks, to read books, not to drink and not to smoke, etc. like you.
Because women fall for muscular fitness maniacs without a gram of brain.
Sorry, but my observation :)
Then this strong man can easily find a mistress and lie to you, beat you, even kill you ... if that (mistress) has promised him something!
Usually such large males have many admirers. And I don't know why they are so masochistic and do all women have the same brain, made on a conveyor belt in capitalist America ...
You have to be a rude, wild and simple peasant.
I'm the same as you. It was difficult for women to pay attention to me. Not to mention I've been without sex for years. There was a woman who used me as her "best friend." That's nice, but am I not a pedal ?! She even made me look at the rash on her chest! I touched them, strongly hoping that the time had come. He pulled away and looked at me as if I was going to eat it! Explain to me that we are friends and he will not sleep with me. I was devastated. I had sunk into it a long time ago. And I hated it. I avoided her. I was rude in conversations. I addressed her with ugly words. And one day we quarreled a lot. As he screamed and hissed at me, he fell silent and began kissing. We started a crazy sexual relationship for 3 months. All she had to do was be with me and go with someone else.
So attentive and good men are looking for women ns 30-35 for a family. Only such a man is no longer free. Go find out what attracts them?
Among my acquaintances and those of my husband, among our friends there is not a single simple and wild peasant, fitness maniacs without a gram of brain, etc. All are married or have girlfriends who I would not call masochistic. It is possible that you move among such people, but do not judge everyone by them. Refers to numbers 9 and 10.
11- everyone judges by himself and his surroundings. There are few intelligent people who can look at things objectively.
Author - even to me you sound desperate. I wouldn't go out with you. Consider your behavior - you may be behaving indecisively and cautiously. Women want a strong man (I mean I don't mean physical strength), not someone to please us. For the qualities he listed, we have girlfriends.
How do we know what you wrote to tell you?
No specifics: not all women will be interested in you. Try dating a second girl. And best of all, try to write to a woman.
Hello! I am a woman, I will answer you honestly: in online dating it all depends on the way you lead the conversation and whether you manage to ignite and maintain interest.
If you have nothing to say but banalities and general talk and you do not know how to flirt and provoke the other party, it is quite normal for your conversation to get boring or tortured and for it to lose interest and withdraw.
It all comes down to how your partner feels when communicating with you - if communication creates a feeling of boredom and heaviness, it quickly becomes unwanted. Everyone wants to feel interesting and special, not ordinary and boring - that's it.
If you have no experience with women, a successful strategy would be to focus on those with whom you at least have some common topics, interests or hobbies (for example from specialized forums, Facebook groups, clubs, etc.), this would be a good basis to start a conversation. which is interesting for both parties and rapprochement and increases the chances of getting something.
"There are a lot of beautiful women out there, but I'm not going to sleep with any of them today because I lack experience." Come to think of it, that's the whole truth, the man who told me has money to buy me and you, sell us and buy us so for fun. But he doesn't know how to handle them. The key is whether you have no experience or physical beauty, and to have a castle. Boldly speaking on my part, but I have a living example. An acquaintance works as a general worker, for me the boy is just dumb. Zero reasoning, doesn't know how to communicate, zero manners, zero culture, but he's handsome. By any standard to watch it. We go to any restaurant you want, he is silent, it's just better and they stick to him. Then the women did not take the first step, I witnessed many ugly pictures, just to choose her. Well I went out exactly 3 times, and it just didn't make sense anymore, I just got depressed. All this pushing in life is done for ATTENTION, by the opposite sex. So dude, you either jump on everything or you wait ... You don't know what you are waiting for, the princess of the white horse ...
Most women draw erroneous conclusions based on very different external features in communication. A great example of such misperceptions are numbers 2 and 4. They seriously confuse "a man's goodwill and willingness to come to the rescue" with "despair and inability to stand up for the woman next to him." And then these same ones roar with full throats "But there are no real men anymore!" ... While you are looking for men among scumbags and men's muffins, you will not find a real man!
And would you have a serious relationship with a woman who is so superficial that she is with you because you "ignore" her and pretend to be a macho (or what most men do there who successfully stab all kinds of muffins and unassuming women)?
You sound like a person with higher criteria. You are looking for a worthy woman who will have the capacity to evaluate you as you are.
I don't know if it's appropriate to give you advice, since I'm a woman myself, but I'll do it anyway:
You choose the women, not you. When a man is really good, he doesn't need to pretend to be a macho or compete with others who do.
The wolf does not bleat like a sheep, and serious women do not like sheep.
Number 2 wrote it right for you.
You're just boring to them, you don't grab them. Women want a strong man not some way. Leave them those Hollywood sweet talk. You have to be a man and act like one.
So many comments and it never occurred to anyone that the problem might be in his target. Author, if the ladies have more than 2000 Facebook friends, upload photos from the discos at least once a week and live to seek fame, there is no way to be listed there. And I don't know why quite a few otherwise sensible men push on such exactly. They are beautiful, yes, but there are so many other beautiful women. Do you have a tendency in men, what, but I have noticed it in many cases. Such girls usually (there are probably exceptions, but not many) are by pattern. Their ability to think, communicate openly about something other than superficial topics is minimal. There is no way a woman seeking the attention of the table can turn to you because you are out of the pattern. If this happens to your system, rethink the women you are targeting.
I do not intend to offend anyone with my comment. I'm just being honest.
20, you say to demonstrate. Do you differentiate between demonstration and actual possession of qualities? That's exactly what I'm watching. You get caught with posers who don't really have such qualities, but otherwise flaunt them. There is a saying "a dog that barks does not bite".
From number 16 to number 2/10:
Spitting on men's muffins and scumbags with tattoos is what you women do when you suffer from another one that made you into marmalade while you were running after his pants. And not male, but female is the well-known and regularly repeated by you, women, phrase: "There are no real men!". Your mistake is that you refuse to think that the problem may be with you and instead you prefer to blame the men, especially those who did NOT make you jam. It turns out that you blame those who you didn't want in the place of these same bastards for the shoots and the bad behavior of the bastards. Do you understand where the female logic is in this, in fact its lack? :)
# 22, You seem to be confusing the meaning of the word demonstrate. This means to show, to manifest and has nothing to do with the truth of quality. And even if you have the qualities without demonstrating them, no one will understand, although my experience shows that you do not have them. On the other hand, you don't stop talking about how decent and good you are, and there are actually other things behind these words, so I don't know who the posers are and whether you are trying to deceive us or pretend that you are so unjust. And that there are men who pretend to be something they are not, there are. Unlike the other type, they have understood what women are looking for and successfully pretend to have other goals. Both types are not a commodity, just the latter are attractive, just as attractive are those soaked babes who always attract the eye, although they come with countless pretensions and loose feet.
4, I know what a demonstration is. I mean, you confuse demonstration with posing, and that's where your problems start.
"Do you differentiate between demonstration and actual possession of qualities?"
And if ... you demonstrate real possession of qualities?
What then? Why? How? Why and how? Is it possible to affect the sphere of life and our essence?
All deep philosophical questions !!!
26, in order to notice such real qualities in a person, you need some knowledge. Because he does not put an inscription on his forehead "I am a decent man", nor does he pat his chest with or without a reason. But of course for a less aware person it is much easier to notice the person who demonstrates them openly and parades with them and it is difficult to judge whether they are real.
I see it en masse among women. They catch up with some absolute posers, they are attracted by the parade and do not notice elementary signs that the person is nothing more than a poseur. When they find out that the person is actually an ordinary complex with a mask, it is already xono, because they have become attached and start to tolerate and justify it until it becomes really ugly. Some women continue to suffer even then. Of course, the conclusion is always "where are the decent men". Well, if you are attracted to the poseur, there are no holy men.
And no, I'm not a loner who complains about not being released. I had the chance to get engaged to one of the few decent women, for which I am very grateful and I apologize to the decent women, but my observations are that there are few of them.
From the scriptures, I learned that women are simple muffins and masochists because they walk with split butts, village backs, uncle-coins, who humiliate and neglect them. Men, on the other hand, are idiots who drag themselves with muffins, chalgadzhiyki and mercantile rags, who cheat on them and make fun of them. Valuable men and decent women disappear in solitude and write on websites.
Eh, fate, fate, why are you so cruel?
# 27,
Congratulations on finding the woman next to you. You've come a long way, you've drawn some conclusions. As a woman, however, I obviously came to others, perhaps because I was on the other side of the equation.
These players you spit on have felt very well what and how a woman is attracted, and from there the lack of quality competition has spoiled and liberated them. The qualities that the decent usually claim are secondary, usually sought once the woman is already attracted to someone, and are not attractive in themselves. And many simply stand out to mask the lack of basic masculine qualities.
Now you can argue with the natural set as much as you want, but it's like me explaining to a man that he has to take the ugly big man because she was a very kind, excellent housewife and would never betray him or go to him. nerves. Sounds good, but it means it doesn't.
But this topic is very broad. I am trying to say something else. Let's assume that you really have you, decent men who can offer a lot, as long as you are given a chance. If you don't learn to show it to us women, it just can't happen. It's like me staying at home all day and roaring because the prince on a white horse doesn't knock on my door. Until you learn to show, demonstrate, push it in our face if you have to, it will just be very difficult in your life and a handful of men will rob all women, fuck several at once, fuck your women behind your back and just they will do whatever comes to them. You may be angry with us for this or take matters into your own hands, as one would expect.
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28, in general. Conscious men and women cannot be found easily because they are in a sea of unconscious.
29, at first they did not feel what women were looking for and did not become such because they paid attention to them. They are just such types in the beginning and women in such societies as ours feel attracted because of their inability to judge correctly. In many other societies, women would be massively repulsed by such types. A question of folk psychology.
And why are decent women and men always associated with ugliness? Do decent women have to be ugly, fat and obedient housewives? This is not my definition of a decent woman. When a person is aware, it is not difficult to notice him and it is not necessary for him to demonstrate anything. People who do not have the ability to decipher the other person are lying about the demonstration. When you cannot understand the deeper, you judge by the most visible and superficial.
Part of my job is to hire people. It is the people who like to demonstrate their "qualities" that turn out to have the least of them over time. There is even a term for this - "Dunning-Krueger effect".
# 30,
You are very much mistaken if you think that this is not typical beyond our society. Where do you think the terms incel, friendzone, etc. come from?
First, the example of the ugly is given to isolate "consciousness" as a factor and to demonstrate that, combined with other, more important characteristics, it is not enough.
Beyond that, it makes sense for unattractive people to compensate with other characteristics that are subject to control. But many only claim to be such as to shift the cause of failure beyond themselves.
Otherwise, yes, why shouldn't there be alpha males who don't cheat and are not posers? ;)
That's right, but if you are an HR, you should also be aware that if no qualities are demonstrated, there is no way to distinguish someone who does not show them from someone who does not. Accordingly, is it not true that many more self-confident people are hired than those who are insecure and evasive? And he who does not have the confidence to act, may not do anything out of fear, even if he has the skills. However, neither women are trained in HR, nor is daily communication a job interview. You need to understand the difference when there is a preset frame.
That's why I'm in that job for both relationships and marriages. The less you care about women, the more success you will have. Be more primary. Do not rethink your words, but be direct. Say what you really think. I'm not just talking to women, but in general.
Go bolder. When you tell someone in the eye what you think they can't believe it. When you meet a woman you like, say that you want to see her because you enjoy it, not to talk like friends on Facebook and on the 2nd day to wonder why ajeba doesn't write. She doesn't write because she went to fuck, because she needs it. No need for unnecessary chats. I suggest you read a little about MGTOW. The book The Rational Male also has a pdf, here someone seemed to have suggested hypergamy, if I'm not mistaken, she was also a woman.
You will change your mind about women and sing another song. Enter you tube and write MGTOW red pill. Then you will thank me.
It is unpleasant to be with a man (whether a man or a woman) who desperately wants to be liked. A while ago I just received a letter in the social media, the man in the photos looks like a puppy, as if to say - like me, shelter me, love me. The same are those women who are struggling to be liked by a man who is not interested in them, they want to be valued at all costs, to prove themselves. If I were heartless, I would take just such a man. Prove to me daily and in every way, for a little attention. And such individuals, as a rule, cannot pay attention, they want approval and attention in order to feel significant. In most cases, they raise the pedestal of the individual from whom they expect approval and the relationship is not complete.
To N30 - my observations are the opposite, but maybe we work in different fields, my profession is looking for impudent, arrogant people with high egos, they call them "breakthrough", maybe because everywhere the bosses and in my industry are from the socialist times. Although the greatest specialists I met were modest, quiet and defensive, as you say - the Dunning-Krueger effect.
Because you're not a fucker ... I'm sorry dude, but Bulgaria is full of whores, and whores are looking for fuckers. I'm 35 and I'm making a comparison. Even in my time, simplicity began to enter from the west, and over time it only got worse. I think nowadays it's too much to call something under 40 "woman", much less "lady". In my time we called them ducks, because we saw how deluded the poor were. In my opinion, we went through this period, because even this naivety is missing from them. They are 14-15 "poisoned".
31, I tell you again that smart people smell the qualities of others and do not push their own into people's eyes. And I'm not HR, and hiring people is PART of my job. No, people who demonstrate are not hired, but neither are those who respond evasively. There are a third type of people who are confident without having to demonstrate. Only 2-3 questions make it clear to you, but most women look just like you for posers. He who has qualities does not feel the need to demonstrate them, because he knows that he who has to see them without unnecessary demonstrations. Only people who cannot judge need to be shown something, because they do not see in depth, but only on the surface. And yes, "alpha" men are rarely true, precisely because too many muffins are offered to them on a griddle.
# 35,
So what's your problem? So the situation is perfect for smart people to be with each other. Tell him more wonderful natural selection than this health.
Author, he wanted answers, hey. The more people, the more answers.
If you want a woman to like you and there is no desired result, it is most logical to ask her, not Bai Ivan from Busmantsi.
As for neglect, this number passes if you are incredibly beautiful or incredibly rich and famous. Or you've caught up with the dumbest pieces you've ever seen. But scratching to meet women to show them that you are ignoring them and waiting for them to let you go is completely absurd.
36, who says there is a problem? My only bi is that too many ignorant people have bent over and the whole society suffers from it. I'm not talking about relationships, but in general. And the few decent ones do not feel in place, because we are more or less one system, but destiny.
Hello. Really a lot of people wrote all sorts of things on the topic you posted and honestly trying to read them I even forgot what your problem is :)
In short, for me - I am 2, 3 years younger than you and I look a lot like you - I read books, I play sports, I don't drink / smoke, I like walks, I haven't got all the material goods, but I'm ambitious and I'm working on it. . I always try to be nice to people, I joke often, I cheer them up, but sometimes when I come home I feel lonely, I'm used to it, I'm not afraid or depressed - these are just temporary states of mind ... A bit like the song of Vasil Naidenov for the clown who returns after a cup of tired tea ...
A man has to be good, no matter how they turn him through any prism, that to be rude means to fuck and impress women, for me it is complete nonsense and a cliché that limits people ... Be what you always are so that you can find a woman like yourself!
Regarding the dating sites and I use them, I went out for 2, 3 meetings from there, but in general they have big disadvantages ... It often happens there that you write to women who prefer to spend their time chatting instead of real meetings, sometimes they stay for years in these sites and do not find the person next to them - this is the bad side of the sites.
In my life, always women and girls who were beautiful, kind, good, with values, were in two words perfect - they were always busy or I did not seek them. I also meet quite inappropriate ...
It struck me that there are women who do not know how to love, do not want to love and family and children are their goal, not something valuable, stemming from their love for loved ones. Usually such women use the man to make them a child, you will say that they do this child for sports and soon decide that they cannot live with the man and get divorced ... The first and basic rule is to be able to love a man and he will love you too and then you will create a being that you both love!
And when it comes to finding the right woman, it's all a matter of time and space, and it's important to be patient. The places you should look for are not in the chat, but outside, dancing, yoga, parks, seminars, lectures, etc. Everywhere you can strike up a conversation and meet intelligent women. Success!
Author, you can't please everyone, only baker's shovels are liked by everyone.
I will give you some advice, when I was 14-20 years old, I had terrible success with women, do you know why? I just didn't think about them, I didn't think if things would work out, etc. One thing I knew, if it wasn't this one, it would be the next one. But over the years, films have begun to be projected in the head, such as:
-Family
-Children
But this movie ruins you, you start thinking and rethinking things before they happen. And finally, what happens? You meet the chick and you give up ... What? Because you burn with desire to like yourself or you try to be gentle, tactful, etc. And hop come to the friend zone.
When I was 14-20 straight on the second date, I asked them if they wanted to be with me. On the third date, they are already in bed. They weren't whores or anything, but normal girls. You just have to feel where the wind is blowing. The truth is that everyone has their own karma and charisma. I know what I'm good at and I use it, I know my weaknesses so they can't hurt me.
From the author:
Thanks to everyone for the comments! You helped me see the problem from a variety of perspectives, which was definitely helpful. Be healthy and happy!:)
You have to look down on them and slightly dismissive. Even a little mocking, with gossip. Gossip is very important if you ask me. But in moderation, so as not to offend them ... Too serious people look stupid in women's eyes, and vice versa - someone with the behavior of an oligophrenic impresses them because they seem open and naughty. Also be confident and not servile to them. Who is easy is not interesting. You have to look good among women, and if you are not, to create such an illusion ... You have to radiate self-confidence, but not ostentatiously, so that it does not show posture but calm, natural self-confidence, dignity. In short, Love is a battlefield, and all the means that lead to victory are good.
I think in order to interest women, you have to have the instinct of a predator, to be a conqueror and never to humiliate yourself in front of them. In order for your wife to let you go, she must recognize you as an authority and feel your moral superiority. Make her comply with you, not you with her. It is also important to feel that you are an authority in a group, a team, a society ... No one is fooled by a relationship with the last hole of the flute and an outsider. Those who are too helpful are neglected. The individual approach is also important. You have to feel the weaknesses of each one and use them skillfully. You don't have to be very open, you have to be a little mysterious, not like everyone else. But if this happens naturally, so that he doesn't decide that you are pretending to be interesting - then he will turn his back on you. Measure in everything.
№19, the expression "many case" is absurd, because "case" is a singular form, while the adverb "many" requires many. h. Get literate a little before giving life advice. Such mistakes are intolerable.
I think something about the way you communicate with your women is lame. Whatever you can offer, if you look desperate and ready for anything to get your attention, you can't arouse interest in any girl. In order to intrigue a woman, it is not so important to be the most beautiful, the most arrogant, etc ... No, what makes us so attracted to the "bad boys" is the great confidence that emit. This quality attracts women like a magnet. I have an acquaintance who looks like an ordinary man, he is nice, he is neither handsome nor muscular, but he has such masculine behavior that my knees are softened by two of his stories. Show confidence in your own qualities without looking arrogant and have casual conversations. Just be positive and cool in communication and there will be positive results.
Author, women's desire to have a partner is equal, if not greater than ours, but they set barriers, restrictions that you must comply with. The requirements they have are two: to come from a reliable source and to come from a controlled environment. That is - all kinds of internet dating, hanging out in bars, etc. are the wrong approach. You have to appear through a "legitimate" channel, at least in her eyes. Mutual friends, company, whatever you can think of. The second requirement "controlled environment" is the explanation why women like all kinds of uniforms - military, Interior Ministry, pilots, etc. I do not know what the conditions are for you, but try to create a favorable appearance for yourself in this regard. If you fulfill these two conditions, be dumb, ugly and boring as you want, with a guarantee you will succeed and not only with one.
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