What are you asking here now? You know how much haight you can take away, that you're a used one, that you're mercantile, that I don't know what more nonsense. When you decide not to date again, there's nothing wrong with it, it's your life...
Well, your friend doesn't have a clear vision of things. It's okay to split the bill or he pays it, but he doesn't know himself and doesn't have a clear position. He wants to play man, and he doesn't have any money.
And that "going to a restaurant, but you're buying" is super inconsiderate. When you invite someone somewhere, you don't comment on who's going to pay, much less say the other one's going to buy. Maybe the guy can't afford a restaurant. You're asking the other guy to pay. What the hell's the logic?
And the cab thing sucks on his part. And not because he didn't pay, but because he was supposed to send you, and in the end he let you pay. It's okay, but at least you'd have said it from the beginning that you'd be sharing a cab and something. Not to leave you with the impression that he's sending you, and then it turns out it's not a bash like that.
And if she's dating a student, that's what he's got to keep in mind. I don't do that. If I've invited a woman somewhere, I want to buy me and send me at my expense. And not because that's how I was taught to buy it to make a big deal or something, but just as respect for it and an expression of concern. To invite this woman, I respect her, and I want her to relax, to be nice to her, and not to think about bills and to me. Similar. I just want to know that while she's with me, she doesn't have to worry about anything and she just needs to have a good time and she's got to have a good time.
But keep in mind that it also depends on which country you're in. For example, it's offensive for a German woman to pay her bill because she accepts that you're making her weak and that she can't pay herself and wants to feel equal. Of course, in such cases I respect the right to pay half the bill.
A little off-peak - in Japan, for example, it's offensive to get out of your place to free up an adult's space because it's so you admit that it's weaker than you. So when you get up, you don't ask him to sit down, but you pretend you wanted to get up, because you've got a job, or you're going to get off the subway, so you're going casually away. That's so you don't affect him.
If you ask me, he's got a lot of work to do right now, at least for a start. But then it becomes obvious that he breaks his heart. It's a scrust thing that will put you in misery very quickly if things get worse between you.
The funniest and most pathetic thing is: "HE WANTED to send me in a taxi." And from here, what's the conclusion, he decides to take a cab, which eventually you pay............ Disgrace! It's not like you've decided that he's letting you pay, because to say, even though he's working, he's in a difficult situation right now. There's no speech here about the argument, who pays, it's just that this guy sucks. You can see from the individual acts. I have such a colleague, split the penny in two, and I do not know which normal woman will catch on with him, who will hastily get her in order, save and not spend.
Otherwise, the main question-if it's a first date, I pay 100% or at least I'll make that attempt if there's no retaliation and it's serious.... if I invite the lady to go out- I pay 100%. If we already have any more serious relationship, then say speeches is already as you came according to the situation - you are together!
It reminded me of one occasion - one had a birthday and invited us a few people to a bar. Everyone orders, but at the end of the day, when the bill comes along, she listens. In the end, we started looking at each other and then everyone paid. After all this, we discussed the situation with my wife and we were both of the opinion that it was very rude, hungry, etc.
It's the same situation in this situation. It doesn't matter who's a man, whether you're working or whatever. If he is not paid, it is right from the beginning to propose to share the bill, not to put things post-fact, which is, to put it mildly, rude.
I always know how much money I have on my way out. I'm ordering things I can pay for myself. If I don't have money for a taxi, I don't agree to one at all. On a first date, I don't expect, and I rarely go up to the man to drive me somewhere. If he's very insistent, I'il let him pay for my coffee, but I don't think that would ruin it or make me a usable. If I arrive first at the place, I call and ask what to order, I usually pay the moment, not when I leave.
Apart from that, I really hate money being made into a question, especially since I've been dating someone recently. For me, such reasoning as: "I'll pay now, and you in the restaurant.", are completely unnecessary and slightly rude. I don't like a man being shy about small bills, let's not even less flaunt his financial capabilities. I always reach for the receipt, and I don't care if the man can at least pay for it all himself. If he wants to, he'il stop me, if he's uncomfortable, I'il notice and let him. In case he doesn't have a lot of money, I'd rather give him a chance to get out of the cavalry. Realistically, when I make a relationship with someone, our money is often mixed. We forget who paid for it when. Sometimes I shop/pay at a restaurant, other times my friend doesn't act like a question, but it happens over time. At the outset, I try not to forget that my expenses are my responsibility, not the almost unknown man in front of me.
I understand you expect the man to pay, especially when he invited you, and he's the only one who works. However, I am also no longer inclined to pay, even paid sex with a non-professional one comes out cheaper. Most of you want to be equal with men, to share cooking, cleaning, shopping, babysitting, driving, mutual pleasure in sex, but we pay the bills because we are men. What are you going to give in return? - whining and claims. Don't hate me ladies, that's my humble opinion. M33.
Well, tell him. What have people become? So you're looking at this young man for a potential relationship and you see some kind of problem in his behavior (from your point of view) - well, tell him! Socialize, people! There's no hiding. Tell him "I think it was so bad that you didn't want you to pay my taxi bill, I hope you're not some Uncle Scrooge." The guy's going to be a little st there at first, but he'il probably come to his senses later.
Why am I saying that? 'Cause I was in a similar situation to my first boyfriend. We were dividing the restaurant bills. One night after sex, she told me that she expected me to pay the bills. I don't know. From our first meeting (which was in a friendly context and I never thought I'd have a relationship with her) we shared our accounts. That's how we went. After you told me, I started paying for them. It's okay.
This whole subject seems terribly petty and unnecessary to me. Not paying the taxi does not mean that he is a bad person or rude, he may not have had money in it at the moment, for me the repreh d'e is to you that the main topic after your meetings is who paid 5 or 10 BGN more or less.
9, you don't understand. It's not the question of who paid, it's the way he left an impression, and then he put things up otherwise post-factum. That's the least disrespectful.
I've always worked and had my own money, but for me the bill pays the man, especially on the first few dates. The rest is a manifestation of stinginess and pettiness, which does not speak well of any M.D..
And don't confuse, men, sex with whores with dating and relationships with normal women (because there are, you to see). A woman can, besides much to demand, and much to give - love, tenderness, sex, attention, moral and financial support. He can eat bread and salt with the man he is with and stay by his side, even if everyone else has kicked him out and left. But such women,
number 7, expect the first few dates to pay the man.
9, if there's no money in it, how come he's going to send it? What if she deems it unnecessary to reach out at all, what to do- begg for pretending to be a gentleman? Principles and gestures are important, not who paid more, who less.
And my boyfriends would never let that happen. Besides, I don't think I'd have come out with a fly like that. And I didn't care if he didn't care if he invited me. What do I need one that wraps up on me and wonders how to split the bill? I just always had enough money. Maybe it depends somewhat on the social environment you live in.
It's simple: who INVITES to the dinner/drink, HE/SHE pays. And that doesn't just make for a first date, and always.
When it is for a taxi, cinema/concert, trip, etc., you have planned together – you share and/or everyone buys the ticket/pays the part of the bill.
Uh, he reminds me of a high school boyfriend of mine. He works, I'm already a graduate, I'm a student in the upper classes. He brags to me that on the same day he took a salary, offered me to go to a restaurant, and finally, after he had eaten like a pig, and I was a sinister and weak vava, eating a handful of rice and splagging with the words "aw, but you eat a lot for that weight," I'm left with half the bill, provided that all that's left he's got in boxes for them. And that in Chinese, where the bills are laughable. I didn't run then, but I had to, because it wasn't the first case or the last case! Run from those who cut the penny in half! Either he's a total jerk to let the unemployed student pay, or he doesn't care and doesn't look for a serious relationship! If he wants the company of a young girl with no finances (and I'm sure it's because of him you came home in a taxi) - to pay, amman from such idiots as him...
As a possible relationship progresses, he'il start asking her for money, as soon as he's invited to restaurants at her expense.
To offer to send you in a taxi and then listen and let you pay is a super rude and ine proponent. He offered to catch a cab, not you! Such an event leaves an extremely unpleasant taste. And if he invited you to a place, he should pay the bill, too.
I don't think you're going to get any more involved - there's no worse than a stingy man, there's no point getting nervous. But tell him why, at least he should know where he's gone. Number 3 is right - he wanted to impress you and show a cavalier, and he's stingy and he's not squeezing. He's really stupid, but it's not your problem anymore - either he'il realize it or he won't, think about it next.
Namely, the invitee pays, and I don't see anything strange about it.
And I was at a birthday party in a guesthouse - we were invited, but in the end we paid for the night, gave money for the food, gave money for a gift, and I did not understand where in the whole story was the invite?! It was really stupid, at least they'd said the terms in advance...
I think your behavior is petty.
Just because the man didn't take all the costs doesn't mean anything. You say it works, but it's not clear if it works for a lot of money. You don't really know this guy at all, but you're making a conclusion about him after two dates.
I personally appreciate other things in one person - whether there is a sense of humor, of self-ionic, I notice how he treats others, not so much with me (because I am supposed to impress in one way or another) and the like. I always pay my own bill, even as a student. That's the last thing I'd notice and comment. We live in the 21st century and now other things are important.
But that's a personal opinion. Isn't that what you asked... :)
Babe, I'm going to tell you the truth about how I feel. I'm a man, 30 years old. My mom taught me that since I was a kid, my grandparents, etc. that's what they've told me - you're dating a woman - you've got to make her feel comfortable with you. I do not know what this is, I accept emancipation, equality, etc., but I do not accept the fleeing from elementary male obligations - to pay the bill, to send the lady to them after a meeting (not to be confused with anticipation for sex) - because in these times men kill on the street, but what to talk about only a girl. I can't leave in one direction and leave her in a cab or something, I leave her at her door where I got her, make sure it's OK. By the way, it's something I call "etiquette," and I don't know where this thing started to go, elementary culture, upbringing, respect if you like the woman. I mean, this shouldn't be confused with family relationships. It's clear that in the family budget everyone pours, who as much as you can, but you haven't reached this stage in your life yet. But for me, a man should go out and act like that, come on, I'm not going to call him a jerk, but it's definitely not a man's behavior. For me. I'm an old school, maybe I'm a de-star now.
12, if there's no money in it - why the hell does he offer to send her in a taxi, and then listen like a... and waits for her to pay. And it puts her in the face of a fact of life. He was lucky that the girl was conscientious, because someone more cancerous would have done it in two pennies, and she wouldn't have thought of taking her expenses. Does he ever think about whether or not she has money for a restaurant and a taxi, even if he knows she's an unemployed student and invited her himself?
A real man always pays! Always. Get rid of that ligla and find the right man for you. M 43
21 - because the kele was saved half of his way by taxi, but the author didn't write it so we wouldn't accuse her of pettiness. Since he saved himself to pay at least half the bill in the second restaurant, and he gave less, and he put the money in his hands... b@your mold is this guy. Amman
It's always been ugly for me to split the bill into mine and your consumed.
If it's a romantic date with a man.
I can't imagine taking the receipt and deciding how much money I owe.
He usually paid the young man, but it happened that I would pay, like his objections, i reply casually that he would make it up to himself next time.
I haven't had any awkward situations, and I haven't felt any discomfort on his part.
The woman has to propose, but the man is right to pay. I can't understand any newly hatched males who think this is a woman's priority in the 21st century. I just feel sorry for them!
I've been dating a girl for nearly five months. I stress that we both work relatively paid jobs. I always pay the bills because that's how it's put in principle, but I'd personally love her to take over an account. Just as a sign of goodwill to me, nothing more. I'd appreciate it.
M30
The stereotype is that a man pays. Of course, the stereotype does not end with this, but continues when the woman pays off. Any kind of gifts, treats have a binding character for the host. This part of the ancient ritual, it's like i'm forgetting. People with a developed sense of honor and duty more cautiously accept the treats, given that they can then be asked for something and the code of honor will require it to be given.
In today's soft-eating society, it's full men looking for free fuckers and women looking for a free dinner.
Grandpa The Boogeyman
For every man, it must be privileged that you're going on a date with him at all. You have to value yourself highly, for the opposite one. Why are you reaching for the bill at all? Are you some bro from the neighborhood or a lady? You have so much else to give, pleasant company, tenderness, your time. I'm not even the slightest hint that I'd pay not to do, I say , "Thanks for dinner, I had a great time, and I think this guy, men" are potential drones. You're paying your own bill, and in 10 years, you can be able to pay all the bills. Congratulations on emancipation.
As a man of 27, I always knew I had to pay for the first four or five dates. Then there are a lot of variables.
Whether the girl has a good income, whether we want a serious relationship, whether we go out often, what is her character ...
But the job is that after four or five meetings, we either have a relationship or it's just business interests.
Look, all right and that you're unemployed, but why do you expect someone to support you? The problem is, today's spending isn't small- you say, restaurant, taxi and some treat. Once upon a time, a coffee in the Mahlen café was 20 st. And it's a day, and you can see each day. Then you can decide on an excursion abroad to go, you may want new to put on, and so on all this can be paid for, but if anyone wants to, they can and decide. There are no limits. The boundaries will fit yourself. You can talk directly. if you like the scheme," you continue. if-no-bye.
Um, number 13, do you mean first dates or in principle? Because I was paid on the first dates, but now we're together long enough to pay for it. And frankly, I'm glad I have the opportunity to give some money, and not always wait.
I don't see anything else on either side. First of all, from the man as the comments above have said, to pretend to be a gentleman, and most likely there is no possibility. On your part, you're taking things too deep, and you're having a good time? How would you feel if he had asked you out and said there wasn't a lot of money, you'd have taken over the bill? Or as they put it above, I'm not going out with him because there's no opportunity. Or did he have to wait until next month to get a salary and you would put on a theme: "Does he like me? After the first date, she's always delaying seeing me? And I forgot you're a student you don't work, why? Just don't tell me you're studying too much and you don't have time. I'm also a student studying and working, yes it's hard, but it's not impossible. I also pay the bills when I invite someone on a date, but how many meetings do I have to pay 1-2-5-10? As has happened to me many times, restaurants discos, pubs 5-6 meetings and come on who's where. Should I label these women in my part? I keep doing it because it's my principle. If things work out between you, what do you expect the man to support you for 1-2-3 years until you graduate? On the other hand, by offering to give money for the account, you do it because you really want to give it away and not from a cortuas, and you don't have the opportunity to offer money. I don't condone anyone, everyone has principles and boundaries. You expect things from someone you don't know. I feel like 90% of people don't want to be happy. The meeting went well, so you don't even know him yet. Enjoy life and the moments are enough with that money.
The man pays the bill. To prepare for a meeting. the woman loses in times more time, energy and money. That's why it's right that if she's a man on the spot, he's going to make up for it. I'm not saying go to expensive restaurants, etc. - everyone according to pocket. But men nowadays have to learn to take on responsibilities, even many need it.
Number 32, do you know what the name of women who exchange "pleasant company, tenderness" for something material? The term is "escort."
By the way, isn't a dinner a little low?
Grandpa The Boogeyman
People like number 38 make me smile - the woman put a lot of energy and money into polishing her nails and hanging out all day at the hairdresser's to pretend to be pretty. And because she honored the man with his beauty, he should pay :) Somehow it doesn't get to grips that if you were so beautiful, you wouldn't have to sneeze all day before the covenant dinner.
The most beautiful women I've ever seen just bathe, tie their hair in a ponytail and go out to do their job. The rest of them are not so gifted with natural beauty, they are left with the uneasy choke all day to tuning in to look like this. And in the morning the man wakes up next to them, then he sees the ugly truth, but literally :)
I haven't read all the comments, not even the story. Too much text, for such an old and banal problem. Too much of a little petty. Most talk out of habit, things that society has planted on them, not realising they're just passengers on the train of manipulation.
Of course, everyone is free to pretend to be a man and pay everything to the woman. Of course, women are also free to expect full provision for their "torment" and "efforts." But as someone mentioned, this mentality is too reminiscent of the relationship between client and prostitute. There's just no watch, and the money isn't given by hand. But indirect payment does not change much things, do not know why these "beauties" do not realize that it does not make them much different from the so-called "companions".
My experience says that the only women a grown man would look at more than just another need for you are those who are aware of it and don't pay attention to such petty games. And in all likelihood, both participants in this scenario I'm talking about are mature enough and successful enough in today's society not to get so excited about who's going to pay dinner because they both make enough and have learned that in this world money is just a paper, just a means. And for those who don't know how to get them out, they're everything - power, status, a better life. Of course, with such a naïve and stupid way of thinking, they would never get to the level where money comes from themselves and they do not pay attention to them. All they have to do is count the pennies at the hairdresser, and the men who think they are very big men, because if you see they spent 200 leva there and paid for a dinner in a decent restaurant.
For the record, to be honest- and I almost always pay. Not because I want to be a bigger man than I am, but to see the backlash. I lock myself in, once again, i've come across a classic "beauty" that she thinks is something of a reward for her husband, like a nakit that we have to pay for, to carry it with us and "use".
Of course, there are also actresses who are quite taught to pretend to be independent and pay, with the idea of showing different. But most of them aren't good actresses, and that's evident, in most cases.
Finally, in very rare cases, there are women who do not pay attention to this, or insist that next time they pay, for example.
Generally speaking, there is no "right move." It doesn't matter what you say or do in this situation. It's important how you both approach this situation. Then the real character is read between the lines. Which, after all, is the most important, and the meaning of this "dance".
The rest are minor problems, small-time, and clumsy play in a stupid movie.
Grandpa The Bagmane, you're surprising me. Your "ancient account" is much more like a Confederate book. The good company and tenderness that a woman can give don't end up with sex (and we're talking about first dates here), it's a shame if the women in your life have shown you that they can only offer that. Paying the bill in this situation is not a financial transaction, but an expression of good upbringing, and the woman owes only that to the next. In my head, a woman should be seen as a reward, not a promotional commodity, you pay and bring home. Will you deny that when you put in more effort (emotional but also financial) to win over a woman, then she's more valuable to you? You try not to lose her, you respect her, precisely because you've put resources in. It's like building a house with your hands and abandoning it (hard work), but the accommodation can change it lightly. And another to ask you to a woman with zero claims, how to trust and start a family? As she has easily given to you, it will be so easy to give to others. In my opinion, if the author came out with this man for the third time, it would be like saying "I'm OK with what you're offering me and I deserve so much." Everything I say, by the way, I learned it from my father. My brother was brought up in the same way, as a student, dad gave him money to buy the "boyfriend," now he's married to a very valuable woman. Over the years, he had one, two mercantile girlfriends, but he quickly drove them away. It distinguishes between women who care about themselves and mercantileness. He had a rather strange principle, he thought that if the girl the first, the second month introduced it to her parents, it would be a hollow lake. So he wanted to work, chase, win. I'm just sure that internally every man wants a woman's reward. yes, he won't miss the easy one either, but it won't bring him any satisfaction, no pride, no certainty. And you don't have to admit or understand that fact. The important thing is for us women to know that. From 32
It is clearly stated in the topic itself that it is about 2 types of people and this is somewhat evident in the comments. I personally belong to the first type of people for better or worse, and I'm glad to see a lot of the commenters who also belong to the first type, which gives hope that the label is not completely lost in the anxious times of today. I'm a young man and I think it's right for us to take the bill, I don't know if I can give a completely clear reason for that understanding, but I just feel it's right. I'm reading the financial factor, but it's not that much about money. As one of the commenters mentioned, the place chooses the man according to his abilities. As men, it's right to take the bill because that's how we show special treatment for the lady, not because she's looking for someone to pay her bill or because she can't pay it herself. I've dated women who make more than me, and I still haven't let them pay the bill, so it's not about who has more money, it's about what's right. I have to put in here somewhere and that I totally agree with 38 and we really need to take responsibility. And to move on - besides the bill, it's another responsibility of ours to make sure the lady gets home safely. On the one hand, it's good that he got in the cab with you, but the fact that he let you pay is so stupid. He still has good intentions, but that's a disclaimer.
Before you start saying who she is, I want to tell you that we chose to ask a woman out on a date, which means we see something in her. My advice to men of the second type is that if you are not prepared to show special treatment to a lady, do not invite her on a date at all. And it's better for you, (you'll save your money if it's so important to you) and it's better for her because every woman deserves this special treatment. If you can't give it to her and don't worry, I'm sure there will be someone who can.
Basically, there are really super stingy people - both men and women - in whom this has become a disease condition. Separately, there are many in love with the material, who are stingy to others, but provide super luxury to themselves. Both types are not good for partners. Author, I think it's nice to go out with this guy a few more times, and things are going to start to clear up. I agree that his joke about drawing next time is fat, but he may just not have figured it out. A while ago, for about 2-3 months, I dated a girl, paying everything from-to. I had just graduated, however, and i didn't make much money, and gradually it started to weigh on me. Besides, it made me sick that she didn't say "tonight I'm going to buy tonight." Eventually I began to feel like a piggy bank, which i subsequently turned out to be, and I told myself I didn't need a relationship like this. On one out, I asked her to give me her part, and from that moment on, another person confronted me. She became mean, nervous, super touchy, etc. We separated quickly, but since then, and with contacts with other similar women, I've been careful about this. I don't care about the money itself. I've been fully materially insured for a long time now, but I just don't want to be used. I pay for the first dates, but if this continues, I just disconnect.
I'm a woman, but I was brought up in the spirit of No 20. I can't imagine my father letting not even my mother, but a relative, a female colleague, a neighbor, a cousin or any lady to pay in a restaurant, no matter which side the invitation came from, unless it was possibly for some occasion as a birthday, because then he would offend her. But life has met me with a host of men who disappear into the toilet the moment they bring the bill, instead of the lady using that moment when the gentleman arranges the payment to refresh himself before leaving the restaurant with him. And that someone sending me in a taxi and paying for it has only happened to me with my ex-husband and no one else to this day. And it has nothing to do with one or the other's income, it's just a matter of etiquette, as Number 20 very aptly mentioned. In today's Bulgaria, we have long abandoned the label and talk only about money, in their most literal terms. We're no longer ladies and gentlemen, we're two purses, each of which doesn't want to open unless they force it. Shame and disgrace! For both men and women. I can afford it with ease. But if this same man invites him home, then I will welcome him with a perfectly arranged table, exquisite hors d'oeuvres, chilled drinks, delicious dinner and a dessert personally prepared by me. Candles, my dressing room, my hairstyle - I don't mention them because they're implied. I will do it as a mark of respect for him and as an expression of my hospitality. Well, why don't I have that attitude towards myself? I'm not barking, I can't drink more than 50 grams of vodka, and I can't eat more than one salad. What's the problem with that "gentleman" who invited me?
In Bulgaria, a harmful practice is very common, in which young and under-young ladies and women purposefully arrange daily meetings with men, just for the pleasure of being kept free of charge in restaurants. Sometimes such cunning women can twist men not only for a few such dinners, but so skillfully to play the role that even expensive gifts are begging, relying on the gonna and the blurred male consciousness (as a matter of fact, many men are balked and easily caught on these tricks). Then the sly passes to the next ball, who pays a price, waiting for some development from the meeting. If there are cunning women, as there are balaclavas, the circle rotates at a furious speed, and it will have it in the future.
When it comes to strangers or friends, everyone pays for what they spend. And here you don't see who worked, who didn't, who was paid. If they're friends, they might alternate their treats - so no one's harmed, and it's more fun. If someone invites someone else somewhere, it is right to pay the entire bill (if it is within reasonable limits and the lad/lad does not overdo it with the spending of a foreign back) or at least in advance to understand again everyone to pay his. The unemployed have no stone in their mouths and can safely warn that they cannot afford visits to pubs or restaurants, so if they decide to go anyway, it has the firm stipulate that they should not be expected to cover their costs. Only incised (be they men or women) can in cheek require an unknown person to pay their bills.
Women should not rush now to plough the world that a man was supposed to be a gentleman (almost all of them under "cavalier" understand "payman") to the lady, because there may be an extreme number of women on Earth, but very few of them are ladies. A lady doesn't pipe left and right that she is. She's not waiting for the man. She doesn't get into nervous outbursts and doesn't slam and pout if she orders a brave thing in a restaurant or rides in a taxi, and then it's her turn to pay for her own expenses. The lady may assume that there is a male-cavalier in her place, who, out of good will and sympathy for her, could pay her expenses, but she does not necessarily wait for him to really do so. For the same reason, she always has sufficient resources to cover her own expenses if necessary. This is because ladies do not like to feel uncomfortable and dependent on payers. They do not want to feel and owe the man if he offers to pay their expenses. The woman was a lady for a gentleman when she with her behavior and attitude to him made him feel like one. Being a lady - it's not a title or vocation, it's not passed from mother to daughter, nor is it an automatic consequence of having a bigger bra number or your gender organ is different from that of men. That the majority of women like to wear women's handbags, which you cleverly call "women's" and are afraid to call with their real name "female", does not make you ladies either.
45 you're absolutely right, I personally have experience with a few such :) but for me they're just girls and act the way they're good
You've become very extreme. From what I understood, some ladies here expect men absolutely every time to pay the bills, and we are not talking only about first dates (correct me if I am wrong, but I with such an impression I remained). But that money is used for haircuts and dresses. My money is mine, yours is common.
Yes, I respect men who are cavalry men who treat you like a woman. No, it wouldn't make a good impression on me if the man didn't pay when he asked a woman out. And no, I don't approve at all what the author described in her subject. But that's it.
Stop exalting yourself with "I'm a woman, my husband will pay me everything." It's a big deal that you're a woman. Yes, during flirting, I understand. But having a serious relationship with someone and expecting to pay you everything when you go out and think they have to do it just because the princess has been able to get a haircut and shine beside it with her unearthly beauty is laughable.
Otherwise, it's really commendable when men after years of marriage don't take a woman for granted and still want to make gestures and pay. Only I have my dignity. I allow myself to be paid on some special occasions such as an anniversary for example (although - now I'll shock you - on the last anniversary I had booked and paid for dinner in an expensive restaurant, as well as a hotel). The rest of the time, we both pay equally often - both for dining outside, and shopping, and for going to events. Because I'm not a woman, and I'm an independent and responsible woman. And because I can offer more than household, sex and coquette.
You've become very extreme. From what I understood, some ladies here expect men absolutely every time to pay the bills, and we are not talking only about first dates (correct me if I am wrong, but I with such an impression I remained). But that money is used for haircuts and dresses. My money is mine, yours is common.
Yes, I respect men who are cavalry men who treat you like a woman. No, it wouldn't make a good impression on me if the man didn't pay when he asked a woman out. And no, I don't approve at all what the author described in her subject. But that's it.
Stop exalting yourself with "I'm a woman, my husband will pay me everything." It's a big deal that you're a woman. Yes, during flirting, I understand. But having a serious relationship with someone and expecting to pay you everything when you go out and think they have to do it just because the princess has been able to get a haircut and shine beside it with her unearthly beauty is laughable.
Otherwise, it's really commendable when men after years of marriage don't take a woman for granted and still want to make gestures and pay. Only I have my dignity. I allow myself to be paid on some special occasions such as an anniversary for example (although - now I'll shock you - on the last anniversary I had booked and paid for dinner in an expensive restaurant, as well as a hotel). The rest of the time, we both pay equally often - both for dining outside, and shopping, and for going to events. Because I'm not a woman, and I'm an independent and responsible woman. And because I can offer more than household, sex and coquette.
Of course, a man has to pay everything like this in rich countries like America and England only poor Bulgarians can get a woman to give out her money or go to work while in rich countries men pay everything and take the maintenance not just talk about the bill in the café, but about everything and there women do not work. My dream is to emigrate to England or America and marry a rich man I'm sick of poor Bulgarians.
49, I'm a gentleman, and I always pay women's bills, but if you put things that way, I wouldn't pay a penny. You understand the difference between cavalry and use. You're not looking for a date, you're looking for a walking ATM. You're not looking for a man to build something with and have reciprocity, just someone to support you and you can live with all day.
I didn't read what you were going to give this man, and I only read what he had to give. Where are you in the whole thing? Are you only going to contribute? I can support a woman who doesn't work, but if you're going to ask the question that way (which is ugly), what are you for? If it's going to be to cook for me and clean up me, I'd rather hire a maid. There are women for sex as much as you want and they come out cheaper. And a woman has to evolve, have contacts and be independent. Yes, her husband is a man and i have to basically support his family, but that doesn't mean a woman has to adorn the home all the time.
And women in the west don't work for other reasons. It's just that the distances are big there, there's a lot of work going on and if they have young children, you can't physically leave for work at 6 o'clock, go back to 20 and be able to pick up the kids from a garden, drive them to a garden, do activities and at the same time spin the home. But when the kids grow up, they work there, too.
So as a man, I'd support a woman, but not if I asked the question in this ugly way. Not that you're not going to do it if you're nice to him and you love him, but if I ask the question like you owe him, and he doesn't have to give anything, it looks ugly and like a trade.
49, because of comments like yours, many men consider women to be mercantile bitches. may I ask you what stops you from emigrating and marrying the dreamy rich man?
G46
Number 49 is either extremely misguided in its ideas, or the comment itself is deliberately written to annoy others. Let's say it's option 1. Then I will tell number 49 that he is wrong about his views on the easy lives of women in "rich countries like the US and England." There and in developed European countries (I recently returned from a trip in three of them, and for years I have been aware of things "out") women work and take on responsibilities on a par with men. It is very important for these women to feel independent and equal. They pay their bills or take turns with their husband, without whining and waiting ready. These are women with honor and dignity. In most European countries, motherhood is 3-6 months, not a long-term one like in Bulgaria. There, you stop your helpers, and the women start working soon after birth. They hire babysitters. You can forget them, because the reality will hit you with full force when/if you decide to really try to "drill" in the West with some generous and drone-like rich man around you. If you think you're going to tie someone in the U.S. or England with a child birth and you're going to live on his back, you're lying. That's the only thing that happens to them in debauchery rags like Nicoletta Lozanova, but here we are already talking about official prostitution with clearly negotiated rules in the deal. Even for this, skills are required, so you have to be not only beautiful or at least inflated with silicone and resembling an inflatable doll, but also with quite durable muscles of the neck, lips and buttocks (to put it in the most delicate way, you know what you will do all day). If you're like that, and that works for you, do it. If you want to be a normal woman and have a quiet relationship with the man by your side, a stable family and well-behaved children, then get all those fantasies of a light life you wrote upstairs and start working. In life, nothing comes from a gift. When you want to spend and live a lavish life, you have two choices - hard work or selling your body. Well, you may be like Aunt Goshka and you can win the lottery, but this happens once to tens of millions of people, so we're back to the first two possibilities.
52 nothing stops me young I'm pretty I'm immediately going to be picked up by some rich guy abroad dying for nice Bulgarians but let's see you if that's 46 years old I can explain your comment like this: you're old and they don't want you anymore.
I'm number 45. There is already a similar theme under the number 120273 ("How do I imply to him to pay?"), and the author is good to read there comment number 59, which was written by me.
I will answer here with a cool joke, which is very indicative of a large number of young and under-young Bulgarian women (with pleasant exceptions, of course, but these ladies are rare):
Only a woman can think:
1. What else to eat to lose weight?
2. What to wear to be naked?
3. How to marry and give birth to live lightly and without responsibilities?
4. How to fight for equality and independence to pay it?
5. With which of the rough ones to come together to feel respected?
6. How long does she have to be silent to get the man next to her to read her thoughts and understand her?
Greetings to the author, and good luck! :)
Number : 54. Young and pretty abroad there are many, and even intelligent. Why do you think you're the one who's going to take "Have you ever gone abroad? Or you still think bulgarians are the best in the world and all the men want you "D The Rich have completely different environments and they go out with unique women. They won't notice you at all :)
Haha, number 54 totally broke me. Looks like she's over-made with tv and movies. The rich will kill each other for it:) The truth is that both in our country and around the world the majority of the population works to make a living.
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