I'd go out, I might like it, I'm a woman. It doesn't have to work, there's no certainty...
I share your wife's point of view. Also a woman :)
And I'd go out with the guy if he was sympathetic to me. how do I decide if I want a relationship if we haven't dated?
I'm a woman, and I share your opinion.
I wouldn't go out with someone I don't want to have an affair with.
Yes, I don't rush with wedding plans and seriousness, but I definitely come up with the idea of starting a real relationship and relationship, not some children's outings and judgments.
We've had time to judge ourselves.
If we're going out on a date, we both want to get to know each other in depth.
And getting to know each other without any commitment, though minimal, there's no way it's going to work.
I still want us to have some confidence and build something real.
But it happened to me some time ago that I started a relationship with a man who just hung me around for a few months with dating and explaining, and then it turned out that "it wasn't going to work out, there's no point in starting a relationship."
I'm sick of it, too.
I think there's a mindset of both sexes.
He's :)
I should at least visually like it to go on a date with a man. But i definitely need at least one meeting to give me an idea of a relationship.
G39
I share your male point of view, author. I'm a woman.
There's no point in me dating a guy if I don't like him very much and if I'm not thinking about a serious relationship. And I don't need months of chat, for a week - I judge the person, subsequently, just reinforce the opinion I've made this week.
The man wants to tell you that as a man, as a man, if he likes the woman, he's ready for a relationship from the first date, or at least he's going to try to tip the scales that way. Whereas his wife is the opposite, I'd say most women. They would go out, but expect to see some of the man's character from what he said on the first few dates. From here you can draw conclusions about how rudimentary women are :D just tell them what they want to hear and are yours.
I'm a woman, and I'd ask for a date with the idea of a relationship, I'd take a date to see what happens and if there's potential.
That's because women are looking for more than appearances. The beauties, as it is clear, are not just for one woman, and they are inflated.
And you men can't put up with people's opinions if they tell you you have the ugly choice, and that's why you don't give a chance. And yes, a lot of men get married to 50
If he's already become nice to me... even on the most superficial level, I'il go out with him on a date. But if I don't, I won't. I support your vision, author.
G, 30
I don't know exactly what you mean, but I'm going to try to answer that.
If a man invites me on a date, I should at least visually like it and seem like a nice person to accept. If I don't like it visually, nothing's going to happen. If it seemed to me to be repulsive, nothing, too. After a meeting, I can't tell if I want a serious relationship with a person. There should be more meetings, sex, conversations on different topics, etc. And only then, if we both like each other and are sure, we start a relationship.
I share the author's opinion at number 4.
On a date, you go out with a guy when you've already "judged him," you like it visually, you fit verbally, there's attraction and sympathy. The meeting is to enjoy each other's company, to get some privacy and have a good time.
And I think, like most of them who wrote, that I wouldn't go out with a woman on a date if I hadn't already "decided" that I judged her and liked her for a serious relationship.
There must be curious people and they like to go on dates without a shaped vision of desires and want to see "how things will develop" and they want to see "how things will develop".
For me, as a man, the meeting happens with serious interest, and I've already made my choice. After all, I invite a woman when I have some acquaintance with her, I've watched her behavior, the reactions, I've scouted for her, what's... ;)
In my opinion, personally, when I invite a woman and "suggest" that I want her to have a serious relationship. If the interest is not mutual, I would like a waiver, so it would be correct. If I don't attract the woman enough or she just doesn't feel like she likes me hard enough, it's fair to divert the invitation.
We're not talking about coffee. We're talking about dinner, for example, in a nice restaurant.
When I invite a woman and say in practice. "I like you. I'd like to be a couple. I have serious intentions for you. "
If he accepts, I personally understand it as an answer. "I like you too. I agree to be a couple. I have serious intentions for you, too. "
In my opinion, pre-acquaintance ends with a meeting, the meeting itself is already an act of mutual sympathy and consent, a woman being with one man.
That's the perfect option. So, I think it's the right thing to do.
But there are curious, unbalanced people, people who don't know for themselves what they want, whimsical, shifty, trying, experiential... People are different. There are honest and sincere others who always leave loopholes, always cunning and changing their minds more often than underwear...
So, the world would be a nice place if there was a sincerity between people.
For me, those who go on a date to see "what's going to happen" aren't cool people. They're driven by self-interest and selfishness. Not out of emotion and sincerity, but they're always in a scheme and making thin bills... from the very beginning... Unfortunately.
I'm a woman and I support your wife.
It's logical that if he seems ugly and unwelcoming, I'm not going to go on a date with him, but even if he's good to make a relationship, I need at least one date.
I've never dated a man I don't like at least visually, and I think that automatically means I take him as a potential partner.
However, this is based on the packaging, so to speak. It happened to me right after the first 10 minutes of a first date that I came to leave because I couldn't stand the behavior of the other person. Well, how, then, to date someone with the intention that it would be Him.
And I was most disappointed precisely when I had minimal expectations.
If a man isn't a little interesting and nice to me, I'm not going out with him. We can't go out with anyone who writes and talks in that cult-like way, 'zdr.kopr?'. The first impression is important to me. Next is a meeting that is a kind of solitude, getting to know each other, creating a more real impression. It makes sense that the meeting will happen when you have an interest in the other. After the meeting, it's more normal to decide if I want something more serious.
Gender: Woman
Your wife is a reasonable person, listen to her. Yes, you think differently, but I don't think the reason is that you're not of the same sex.
I'm a woman.
Woman, 19
I wouldn't go out with a man either if I didn't intend to have a relationship with him.
Women see in a man it's a good ATM, so they'll immediately go out to see how rich he is and whether to continue in a relationship. And men see a sexual object in the woman, and if the subject likes it, he will come out, but if he does not catch his eye, he will not go on a date!
And do you attach importance to the fact that in order to go on a date in most cases the man invites /proposes for the meeting/. Accordingly, it is the man who may have already made a decision about a relationship, and the invited woman has a chance to approve or reject the offer, and from there to decide whether there will be expectations of a relationship.
Also give importance to the fact that for a man a woman's vision is much more important than the other qualities of a sexual partner /woman for a relationship/, For women, however, it is not at all important that he is not disgustingly ugly or badly dressed, but more importantly whether he is gallant, whether he has aspirations in his life, whether he is hard-working, and whether he has enough brains to make money to feed his eventual future generation, whether he is stingy and greedy. Because a woman can put her husband's wardrobe in order so that he can be neat, give him a sense of how to conceal his ugly features, how to cut his hair to look decent, but she can't make him try to work and make money, he can't force him to give pocket money to their children (if he's greedy).
Remember that for a man ending up for a relationship after a few nights of sex is a pride, it is not a shame for him to have had sex even with 1,000 women, but for a woman the word relationship is in most cases associated with hope for family and children.
I'm a woman.
If a man I've known for a while, we've been communicating for a while, he's asked me out, I'il only accept if I like it, of course. Hoping to have a relationship.
But the men who invite me on a date when we first meet somewhere without the opportunity to communicate for at least half an hour, I don't see how they would go with the intention of having an affair with me. I don't get it.
My most dramatic relationships, by the way, have started with people I've known for a while before I was asked out. I don't know why this is happening. More successful and seamless have been the ones that started as "let's see what happens."
My current friend and I met at the end of a seminar - I liked it purely visually, but we did not have the opportunity to go out somewhere after the seminar and arranged for a meeting. Of course I didn't make it for a few minutes to judge if I wanted a relationship with him - I just knew we had something in common and that he was beautiful. Neither is my other enough to ask for a relationship with someone.
I don't date unless I've judged him at least as a potential sexual partner.
I like to communicate more with men than with women, and I don't associate a meeting with the possibility of a potential relationship, but simply as an opportunity for a pleasant conversation. In general, I am against expectations.
On the other hand, I've had a man get the impression that if I agreed to go out, I wanted a relationship with him. Which even comes as a bit offensive to me, as if a man doesn't care to communicate with me if it's not going to lead to sexual relations. Well, he's going to have to take that risk and put some time in.
It is too extreme to date new people of the other sex, only because of sexual and intimate aspirations. I'm like number 22, too. And how can a person have expectations of a relationship or interest by not even seeing the person LIVE in most cases? People are different, but intellectual types of people don't have such thoughts, while the more primal ones follow their instincts. Hence the expectations associated with the first exit are different. The former hope to get to know the person in a real situation and simply communicate a new soul, and the latter hope to lay the foundations of intimate relations ... on the first meeting. The more communicative a person is, the more he doesn't attach importance to the first meeting with a person of the other sex. People are so different and move them so different motives ..... Accept that there is no winner in your dispute, because the expectations and meaning that people put on a first date are strictly individual. So that there are no deceit, because of misunderstanding, my advice is not to approach expectations and not build air towers for the first meeting. On a first date, a lot of people have a hard time relaxing and playing roles.
The only thing I found out from the commentators here is that if he's not a handsome guy with a sculpted body, an aesthetic eye area, a tapered, square mandible and at least 180 cm tall, they won't give him a chance. I just wonder how many of these commentators are so beautiful that they demand the same from their potential partner.
Otherwise, personally, if I don't have any contact with the woman, I don't see the point in wasting my time and her time. It's more important for me to have something to say with her, because the appearance in women is up to the old days (30-35 years for most). It is enough not to be sickly thick, unfing or depranable.
I'd give a man a chance, too, if there's nothing to put me off him before then. I'd do more than one meeting and if we had similar interests then I'd think about more.
I must have attracted something attention to me to go out with him, usually my first impression, even if I almost saw the man, is very accurate, so I rely on him and when we've met he's grabbed my attention, I want to see you again, possibly sooner, but if I've been talking to me, he's pushed me away. , I do not want to see it anymore, the first impression is very important! Woman
If I like it, I'il go out. Woman 42
To number 24 "The only thing I found out from the commentators here is that if he's not a handsome guy with a sculpted body, an aesthetic eye area, a tapered, square mandible and at least 180 cm tall, they won't give him a chance. I just wonder how many of these commentators are so beautiful that they demand the same from their potential partner. "
That's why "dear" 24 we women want to get to know you in order to decide if we want a relationship. You men have a radically different idea of the meaning of most words. And in general, no matter gender, everyone puts a different meaning into concepts. I went back to read, and I didn't see any of us describe the handsome man like that. It's clear, though, what a handsome man means to you. I personally don't like a square mandible. Like a Neanderthal or a prisoner. Cliché... However, if someone has such a mandible, but there are other physical data that sweetly reconcile with a pleasant character - I would not return it to a mandible. The women said attractive. For each eye, attractive is different. Don't put us in a template please! I had a funny case recently. I was telling a friend that my last love was a man I wouldn't turn around in the street. A few days later, she bit me with the expression - how can you sleep with a chichak with tripe and palases??? ! I've literally chained myself up. I'm calling her- I didn't say that! And she quoted me- she said she wouldn't turn around after him... You see "dear "24. Her idea of ugly, she overexposed it to my words.
I just said it wasn't my ideal of male beauty. And it's always my sweetest love. And the relationship is something seros. Why would it be bad to predict who will juggle our hearts and feelings? I'm not mad that men choose primary with eyes. Don't judge us either. It's an honor to think about it, though. That tells me there's a lot more men who aren't just looking for sex.
Man 28 Sofia.
The differences are about who he's going to pay. That's where different thinking comes from. A woman doesn't cost her anything to go on a date and not work out. Even if nothing happens, they have at least bought it because in 90% (not to say 100 %) men will pay the bill.
Since I look at most of the comments being how the woman would have liked him, or at least want to know more about him once she went on a date, I can tell you that in theory you're right, but in practice it's not. Since I've been on a lot of dates with different girls, I can assure you that I have probably 30% of the meetings I've been on, the woman has invited me, shows no interest or question what I like or what hobbies I have, but when the bill comes up, it doesn't even affect me. We're not even talking about any internet dating with people we haven't seen before and say she didn't like me live. It's about people with mutual friends like we've seen you before.
It shouldn't be like that, but that's how it works. Because the site is anonymous, I can tell myself the truth that I've been without a girlfriend for a few months now, and the reason I'm not looking is just that. When you go on dates, you have to get ready to play hard and a bag of money.
Your wife's right! It's superficial to announce that you only want a relationship based on appearance! But a lot of men are superficial.
G44
That's number 29,
In one movie, two girlfriends talk. One tells the other that girls go on dates to see and estimate how much money the boy has. The conversation was supposedly joking, but actually quite frank...
But these are superficial stories. The women, most, conceal their mercantilism and materialism behind "scientific" theories that the woman had a "maternal" instinct and wanted to see that a man could provide for her, her and her offspring...
In general, anyone who wants to use others in some way has "scientific" arguments.
The lack of serious and frank human relationships that led people to a lonely life.
Meetings, outings, continuants, but in the end, loneliness.
Back in the day, there were mercantile women, too.
It's no coincidence that the people said:
The good jabs, eventually the pigs eat them.
From a lot of bills and dumps, finally - alone, that with a child on her hands, and in a lot of cases on the street...
I know women like that. Smart, beautiful... and very.
They don't learn, they just don't care.
Number 28,
Your "last" love or "another"... it was not clear.
I'm sorry, but it sounded like a carp I caught the last time I went fishing... Not that I like it, but it's hooked, just.
Another one I wouldn't turn around, but I was doing it because I was bored... Just like that, about sports?
You don't like to be put in a template, but you're doing great on your own. Women with mild and superficial behavior with claims for ladies, but far from that, light years away.
You use men as toys, and that's your "right."
And enough of this, give him a chance. You're funny.
A sincere man doesn't give a chance. He knows what he wants, doesn't compromise and doesn't "give a chance."
Promicethic and polygamous creatures who only want and want and want...
Stop giving ;) Men started getting tired of giving them a chance. We're giving you a chance. Ok?
Don't confuse the co-itzers who get fat for sex. These aren't men, they're pilgrims. And they care if you give them a chance or not, when you inflate, they go to the next one, which gives you a chance...
Serious people make appointments when they get to know each other in advance. They do not draw preliminary conclusions and opinions until the meeting. They got to know each other when they were still on "You" when some interest or environment connects them in some way. The meeting is a hollow, an act of good acquaintance that evolves into something more. What kind of date is it, getting to know a man just when you see him for the first time in your life... Western fiction, people to consume.
You have to be really stupid, imagining that on such a "date" you're going to get to know the guy. At such a meeting, it's just people being judged whether they're going to and when.
Men will slowly be shackled after this feminist invasion. You want to at will, and then, when you're whining, catch the fool to support you, but i won't. It's not going to work. Until then, guys you wouldn't turn around, but make up for it with fat wallets... At least put your price on it, it's right. Don't be so proud. :) Domestic prostitution isn't from yesterday.
Come with health and success in "giving a chance"...
Number 33, I don't know what kind of women you've been dealing with, that you're so angry. The man I mentioned, I don't know if he's the last but sincerely I hope. I've only given three people a chance in this life. And not because I'm a fanned hen. I just got married at 18 and by 35 I was engaged. I've never had any other men or wiped. I didn't cut men. I'm just not flirting, and i don't have a lot of work around me. I wouldn't turn to this man, but he turned me on. He's too smart to be a carp. And there's that thing you fall in love with irreversibly. And when the butterflies flew away, I felt there was something even better after them. Something indescribable. Just don't scold me, just make a call to meet the woman who was made for you. Success!
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